Comments on: The Win-Win Of A Work-For-Rent Arrangement http://www.diamondcutlife.org/the-win-win-of-working-for-rent/ Sustainable Living: The Heart Of The Matter Wed, 08 Feb 2012 21:24:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Nick http://www.diamondcutlife.org/the-win-win-of-working-for-rent/comment-page-1/#comment-71358 Nick Tue, 20 Sep 2011 18:28:08 +0000 http://www.diamondcutlife.org/?p=637#comment-71358 I love the article and I think its a great idea.. especially in this economy! A friend an I are doing a work-for-rent exchange with the owner of an old building built in 1906.. we are rehabbing it in exhange for rent equity. We gave an estimate and proposal.. they pay for materials and we provide labor.. its been one of the most satisfying experiences of my life.. im saving money as a recent grad.. and learning tangible skills that will last a lifetime. jarboeinitiative.blogspot.com/ please check it out and leave your feedback. These opportunities are out there.. go get them! I love the article and I think its a great idea.. especially in this economy!

A friend an I are doing a work-for-rent exchange with the owner of an old building built in 1906.. we are rehabbing it in exhange for rent equity. We gave an estimate and proposal.. they pay for materials and we provide labor.. its been one of the most satisfying experiences of my life.. im saving money as a recent grad.. and learning tangible skills that will last a lifetime.

jarboeinitiative.blogspot.com/

please check it out and leave your feedback. These opportunities are out there.. go get them!

]]> By: Alison http://www.diamondcutlife.org/the-win-win-of-working-for-rent/comment-page-1/#comment-63268 Alison Fri, 24 Jun 2011 22:36:00 +0000 http://www.diamondcutlife.org/?p=637#comment-63268 Hi Barbara, Thanks! Such a pleasure to meet you, David & Delilah at Melissa's wedding last month. Thanks too for your good voicemail. I need to visit your website now. Keep up your good urban progressivism in San Diego! Hi Barbara,

Thanks! Such a pleasure to meet you, David & Delilah at Melissa’s wedding last month. Thanks too for your good voicemail. I need to visit your website now. Keep up your good urban progressivism in San Diego!

]]> By: Barbara http://www.diamondcutlife.org/the-win-win-of-working-for-rent/comment-page-1/#comment-63260 Barbara Fri, 24 Jun 2011 20:30:35 +0000 http://www.diamondcutlife.org/?p=637#comment-63260 Hi Alison- this is great! Hi Alison- this is great!

]]> By: joe z http://www.diamondcutlife.org/the-win-win-of-working-for-rent/comment-page-1/#comment-53655 joe z Wed, 29 Dec 2010 00:23:37 +0000 http://www.diamondcutlife.org/?p=637#comment-53655 Time and time again I have done work for people in exchange for rent and in most cases have made a little money because I can do a lot of things and it made me kind of family.Good for me as I have none.A contractor/gardener(am a Master Naturalist)/Singer Performer/plumber etc. can cost a fortune so they got a bargain too.As long as BOTH people can get along and agree on boundaries as well as respect one another it works.Starts getting sticky when the homeowner starts thinking you are their slave and then the tenant looses interest in doing the RIGHT THING. Then the RIGHT THING to do is talk it out and if they can not find common ground it is time to move and thank the homeowner for the opportunity to help. Is very hard for a lot of people to do.I have churches to back me up as I have done work for them(both finnish work and singing in their choirs.Am a Principle singer.So have the ( Christian ethic I guess) .Plus I grew up in the LOVE generation in the 70s and things were a little different back then. Takes special people to work and live in the same space.I have never had a problem that could not be rectified and sometimes it was just the end of the job so I moved on.I thank everyone who has trusted me in the past and thank God for the chance to matter. THANK YOU!!!!!!! Time and time again I have done work for people in exchange for rent and in most cases have made a little money because I can do a lot of things and it made me kind of family.Good for me as I have none.A contractor/gardener(am a Master Naturalist)/Singer Performer/plumber etc. can cost a fortune so they got a bargain too.As long as BOTH people can get along and agree on boundaries as well as respect one another it works.Starts getting sticky when the homeowner starts thinking you are their slave and then the tenant looses interest in doing the RIGHT THING. Then the RIGHT THING to do is talk it out and if they can not find common ground it is time to move and thank the homeowner for the opportunity to help. Is very hard for a lot of people to do.I have churches to back me up as I have done work for them(both finnish work and singing in their choirs.Am a Principle singer.So have the ( Christian ethic I guess) .Plus I grew up in the LOVE generation in the 70s and things were a little different back then. Takes special people to work and live in the same space.I have never had a problem that could not be rectified and sometimes it was just the end of the job so I moved on.I thank everyone who has trusted me in the past and thank God for the chance to matter. THANK YOU!!!!!!!

]]> By: Alison http://www.diamondcutlife.org/the-win-win-of-working-for-rent/comment-page-1/#comment-51656 Alison Sun, 05 Dec 2010 15:11:48 +0000 http://www.diamondcutlife.org/?p=637#comment-51656 LJ, The short answer to your question is that no, I've experienced no legal issues around this. Longer answer: That's not to say there couldn't be any. Deeper answer: Barter is part of the human condition, as are informal financial transactions. If we were to invite a relative or friend to live with any of us because they couldn't afford to live independently, or simply because we liked them and enjoyed their company, it'd be normal for them to not pay formal rent, but to somehow contribute to the household, whether with some child-care, cooking, mowing the lawn or what have you. It's hard to imagine any of this being a taxable event. Similarly, when people in the U.S. have garage or yard sales, we might garner a few hundred dollars from the sale of our unneeded stuff. But I have yet to meet anyone who declares yard sale proceeds as taxable income, though legally it probably is taxable income. It seems too intrusive to most citizens to have the state involved in that way. So, LJ, I don't have a simple answer for you, and I imagine that a few different people in whatever state you live in would have different takes on the situation. LJ, The short answer to your question is that no, I’ve experienced no legal issues around this.

Longer answer: That’s not to say there couldn’t be any.

Deeper answer: Barter is part of the human condition, as are informal financial transactions. If we were to invite a relative or friend to live with any of us because they couldn’t afford to live independently, or simply because we liked them and enjoyed their company, it’d be normal for them to not pay formal rent, but to somehow contribute to the household, whether with some child-care, cooking, mowing the lawn or what have you. It’s hard to imagine any of this being a taxable event.

Similarly, when people in the U.S. have garage or yard sales, we might garner a few hundred dollars from the sale of our unneeded stuff. But I have yet to meet anyone who declares yard sale proceeds as taxable income, though legally it probably is taxable income. It seems too intrusive to most citizens to have the state involved in that way.

So, LJ, I don’t have a simple answer for you, and I imagine that a few different people in whatever state you live in would have different takes on the situation.

]]> By: LJ http://www.diamondcutlife.org/the-win-win-of-working-for-rent/comment-page-1/#comment-51070 LJ Wed, 24 Nov 2010 18:39:23 +0000 http://www.diamondcutlife.org/?p=637#comment-51070 Any legal issues come up with this? I'm considering doing this myself, but was told I had to treat the person like an employee, with SS paid, etc. The contract alone seemed like a hassle, but the state requires a bunch of stuff such as certain clauses in certain fonts/sizes for any rental agreement. I'm trying to figure out how to legally include a work/rent exchange. Any legal issues come up with this? I’m considering doing this myself, but was told I had to treat the person like an employee, with SS paid, etc. The contract alone seemed like a hassle, but the state requires a bunch of stuff such as certain clauses in certain fonts/sizes for any rental agreement. I’m trying to figure out how to legally include a work/rent exchange.

]]> By: Alison http://www.diamondcutlife.org/the-win-win-of-working-for-rent/comment-page-1/#comment-42939 Alison Sun, 29 Aug 2010 02:50:17 +0000 http://www.diamondcutlife.org/?p=637#comment-42939 Laura, My husband and I moved to a different, larger house and right now are looking for a housemate who pays traditional rent (with money) rather than by contributing services to the household. I can empathize that Las Vegas would be a hard environment for someone with, say, non-materialistic values. I wish you all the best. I do know of at least one person who got the idea of working for rent from me, then approached someone he knew with the idea (she had property needing lots of work and he had the skills she needed) -- and she accepted his work-for-rent proposal! I think the trick is in having the skills that the household needs, and then negotiating and putting the agreement into writing, with a modest expectation of, say, a six-month duration. Warm wishes and thanks for writing, Laura. Laura, My husband and I moved to a different, larger house and right now are looking for a housemate who pays traditional rent (with money) rather than by contributing services to the household. I can empathize that Las Vegas would be a hard environment for someone with, say, non-materialistic values. I wish you all the best. I do know of at least one person who got the idea of working for rent from me, then approached someone he knew with the idea (she had property needing lots of work and he had the skills she needed) — and she accepted his work-for-rent proposal!

I think the trick is in having the skills that the household needs, and then negotiating and putting the agreement into writing, with a modest expectation of, say, a six-month duration.

Warm wishes and thanks for writing, Laura.

]]> By: Alison http://www.diamondcutlife.org/the-win-win-of-working-for-rent/comment-page-1/#comment-42938 Alison Sun, 29 Aug 2010 02:43:48 +0000 http://www.diamondcutlife.org/?p=637#comment-42938 Kevin, Reading your comment, I'm not sure if you know that I live in Portland, Oregon -- fairly different from the Big Apple. You sound like a great person and I wish you success in your search for a good place to live. Kevin, Reading your comment, I’m not sure if you know that I live in Portland, Oregon — fairly different from the Big Apple. You sound like a great person and I wish you success in your search for a good place to live.

]]> By: Laura Canale http://www.diamondcutlife.org/the-win-win-of-working-for-rent/comment-page-1/#comment-42790 Laura Canale Sat, 28 Aug 2010 00:25:24 +0000 http://www.diamondcutlife.org/?p=637#comment-42790 Looking to transfer out of Nevada, Willing and not afaid to work hard. I work for the school district now k-5. only 3 hours a week . I love to garden , cleaning is my specialty any houshold chores. and preparing meals. I can also paint and love to help others. Please let me know How this work for rent goes. Happiness comes from within I know but Las vegas sure make it hard. Sicerly Laura Looking to transfer out of Nevada, Willing and not afaid to work hard. I work for the school district now k-5. only 3 hours a week . I love to garden , cleaning is my specialty any houshold chores. and preparing meals. I can also paint and love to help others. Please let me know How this work for rent goes. Happiness comes from within I know but Las vegas sure make it hard. Sicerly Laura

]]> By: Kevin Canada http://www.diamondcutlife.org/the-win-win-of-working-for-rent/comment-page-1/#comment-42778 Kevin Canada Fri, 27 Aug 2010 22:52:09 +0000 http://www.diamondcutlife.org/?p=637#comment-42778 I am looking for a roommate or room situation. I currently live in Long Island, very reliable, quiet, non smoker and honest person. Probably the ideal roommate, I do have a medium size dog, very sweet and a joy to be around, I won't give her up so I have to find a place for the both of us. I pay my rent on time every month, have steady income, want to live and work in the Big Apple where its all happening. I am politically involved in different issues another reason for moving to the city. I have plenty of references, am a professional, Executive MBA University of Denver, former military officer and business owner. My life right now is involved in real political change in this world, would be nice to find a kindred spirit to share a place to live.Not looking for a relationship or anything like that just a safe place to live. Will be willing to work in exchange for rent or anything like that as well. Kevin Canada kcanada@safe-mail.net 631 778-5024 631 419-6132 I am looking for a roommate or room situation. I currently live in Long Island, very reliable, quiet, non smoker and honest person. Probably the ideal roommate, I do have a medium size dog, very sweet and a joy to be around, I won’t give her up so I have to find a place for the both of us. I pay my rent on time every month, have steady income, want to live and work in the Big Apple where its all happening. I am politically involved in different issues another reason for moving to the city.

I have plenty of references, am a professional, Executive MBA University of Denver, former military officer and business owner. My life right now is involved in real political change in this world, would be nice to find a kindred spirit to share a place to live.Not looking for a relationship or anything like that just a safe place to live. Will be willing to work in exchange for rent or anything like that as well.

Kevin Canada

kcanada@safe-mail.net

631 778-5024
631 419-6132

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